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As planned some members of the Association met at the Normanby Hotel
recently. The members enjoyed the chance to relive old war stories. It was
noted that William Ridley attended the function. William was one of the
first intake into QUR. Garry Collins (ex CO QUR) commented that he was not
even born until one year after William had enlisted into QUR.
Recently we made contact with Toby St George, another old soldier from QUR.
During the contact we asked Toby if he would be prepared to recall some of
his memories of service within QUR. He has started to send us some of his
memories already. They are short stories and comments. Some of his
recollections are attached as an email later in this newsletter.
For those who read the newsletters you will be aware of my requests to all
to contribute to the history collection. I again ask all of you to write of
your times with the Regiment. They don’t have to be long stories. Short
comments are quite acceptable.
As the year progresses quickly we must look at the preparation for the
Annual General Meeting and Dinner. This year the Annual General Meeting and
Dinner will be held at the United Services Club on Thursday 10 September
2015 at 1900 for 1930 hours. The night is a very relaxed dinner during which
the necessary activity for the conduct of an Annual General Meeting occurs.
At the end of the dinner we look forward to a brief update of the status of
the Regiment given by the Commanding Officer. As usual the old executive
management committee will stand down from their positions and a new
committee will be formed (President, Vice President, Secretary/Treasurer,
Membership Secretary/Website Manager, History Manager, Newsletter Editor,
Committee members.) Should you be prepared to be available for any of the
positions please let me know (Trevor Luttrell 0437 442 964) and I will make
the necessary arrangements for your nomination to go forward. We look
forward to your attendance at the AGM and dinner in September.
Recently I was contacted by a Major Ryan Pearce who was looking for any
pictures of his wife’s grandfather. He was a motorcycle MP and was on QUR
Colours Parade in July 1959. He was looking for photos of his grandfather on
that parade. If anyone can help him with any photos, he would be greatly
appreciated. His email is seen below. Please contact me if you can help in
"I am the
OC of Training Coy, QUR, and whilst discussing my posting with my wife's
grandfather, the topic of an old parade came up. Adrian Van Moolenbroeck
was an MP LCPL at the Indooroopilly depot in 1959 and served in Vietnam. He
later changed to RACT and discharged as a WO2. He recalls providing a
motorcycle escort for the QLD Governor, Sir Henry Able Smith during the QUR
colour parade in July 1959. He is still in contact with another MP that
supported the parade, however neither of them have photos.
Does QURA have any photos from this parade? If so, it would be great to get
a copy of them. Feel free to call or email me to discuss this, or point me
in the direction of the best person to handle the request."
I have informed Ryan that I will search our records to see if any of our old
photos contain any images of the MP escort.
The above request is a classic example for assistance with historical items
that we get from people all over the world. This demonstrates one reason why
I am so keen to get as much history as possible. Please assist me to collect
items of historical interest. I am happy to receive them, copy them and
return them directly back to you.
A final note regarding my efforts to collect history. One of the many
requests for assistance is for details about ex members, such as "Did John
Smith serve in QUR and when?" Due to the floods and the difficulty of being
able to find the nominal rolls of QUR there is great difficulty in being
able to identify ex members of QUR. In order to establish a "Nominal Roll"
for QUR I intend to commence a "Rogues Gallery" project. I appeal to you all
to assist me with this project. The detail for this project is further in
I look forward to your assistance with the history projects over the next
few months and to your attendance at the Annual General Meeting and Dinner
"Rogues Gallery" History Project
Regularly QURA receives requests regarding information about people who may
have served in QUR. Unfortunately QURA has only very limited records of
people passing through the Regiment. Any records that the Unit or the
Association had were mostly destroyed by the two Brisbane floods. It is very
difficult to get any information from the Department of Defence regarding
the names of soldiers who served in the unit.
So as to record as many names of soldiers who
served in the unit it has been decided to ask everybody to record the names
of all the soldiers with whom they served. If everyone lists the names of
all the soldiers that they could remember, we would then compile a nominal
roll. To identify each of the soldiers, we will ask for a limited amount of
information such as:
- First Name,
- Last Name,
- Highest rank if known,
- Civilian occupation and position if known,
- Year or dates served in the unit.
Some examples might be:
* John Smith, Corporal, self employed
* Fred Johnston, Warrant Officer Class 2,
Teacher 1968 –1981
* Gerard Rackley, Captain, Dentist, 1995
* Samuel Brown, LTCOL, Public Servant
Engineer Regional Director, CO QUR 1981-1985
Obviously if more information is known this should
be added, such as:
- Any details of military service
- Any honours or awards
- Command of any units, subunits
- Any stories about the member
- Contact Details if known (Contact
information is not released to anyone)
- Alive or deceased
It does not matter if your information is incomplete as we might be able to
complete it when two people present details about the same person.
How do you help?
Just start to record
the names of the soldiers that you have served with in QUR. Don’t think
that someone else will name them because they are popular…. Just name them
all. Keep adding to the list as you remember them. Send them to me when you
think you recorded all those you can remember. Keep sending them if you
think of more.
Email `Rogues Gallery`
Or send in writing (It can be typed or handwritten) to:-
24 Walcott Street
St Lucia Q 4067
If you do nothing more for the history of QUR project please assist us with
This history project can only work if everyone sends as much information as
possible. It will only take very little time for each person to help.
CO's Report May 2015
Regiment has maintained a high tempo since my last update.
We have successfully delivered courses to qualify
Infantryman, meet promotion requirements for Lieutenants and
Captains plus driver and training development of personnel.
Regimental Dinner for Senior Non-Commission Officers,
Warrant Officers and Officers was held on 10 April 2015.
Over 30 personnel attended what was an enjoyable evening for
all, with the two members of QURA executive in Attendance. Our mixed Dining-In will be held
on 10 Oct 15 - more details to follow.
ANZAC Day 2015 was well supported by the Regiment at Toowong
and Sherwood-Indooroopilly. Over 4000 people attended the
Centenary commemoration at Toowong and I am unsure of the
numbers at Sherwood-Indooroopilly. The Regiment provided
catafalque parties and key note speakers at both locations.
Regimental Open Day and Back To was held on 9 May 2015.
Over 400 families and Friends of the Regiment were treated
to displays of modern weapons and equipment manned by
members of staff and Officer Cadets. I trust that all
members of the Association that attended had a good day."
Commanding Officer/Chief Instructor
Queensland University Regiment
''Scientia Ac Labore - Knowledge Through
Viet Cong Soldier
Describes Life in War
QURA member, Bill Beach, received the
following and thought it would be of interest to other QURA
Maryborough Military & Colonial Museum [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]
Sent: Saturday, 11 April 2015 2:56 PM
Subject: VIET CONG SOLDIER DESCRIBES
LIFE IN THE WAR
Passed on by Bill Roche who was one of the soldiers in D
Coy 6RAR at the Battle of Long Tan on 18 Aug 1966.
Viet Cong soldier describes life in war.
8 Things Vietnam War Movies Leave Out (By an Enemy
Evan V. Symon, Nguyen Hoa Giai
March 27, 2015
Even if your knowledge of the Vietnam War
comes exclusively from Hollywood films and Texan
textbooks that only refer to it as "that one the good
guys lost," you've probably heard about the Viet Cong.
They were a bunch of jungle-fighting
guerrilla warriors who killed American boys via
night-time ambushes and terrifying traps. Well, that's
one side of the story.
Here's another: They were a bunch of
scared (mostly) young kids fighting in a massive
conflict for very personal reasons. We sent a writer out
to Vietnam to speak with Nguyen Hoa Giai. He fought as a
Viet Cong from the late 1950s to the end of the war in
Here's what he told us.
#8. We Weren't All Communists; We Just
Wanted Independence, or Revenge
I became a Viet Cong guerrilla in the
late 1950s, when I was 15. It wasn't because I was a
Communist, or because I ran away to join the circus and
just got wildly sidetracked. My uncle actually fought on
Ho Chi Minh's side of things during WWII when the
resistance against Japanese occupation was actually
funded by the
Americans and Brits
STOP THE COLONIAL EXPLOITATION FOR A MINUTE AND SCRUNCH
I was just mad at how the South was
pushing all of its excess money into the major cities
like Saigon. The South Vietnamese government seemed to
ignore small towns and villages, like mine. Ngo Dinh
Diem (the leader of South Vietnam at the time) even took
away our farms and put them under the control of a
single rich guy who'd supported the French in World War
II. This happened all over South Vietnam and was called
"land reform," rather than the far more accurate
"serious, deep, and exploratory boning."
The French, who had controlled Vietnam
since the 1800s, always saw the locals as "lower," and
we never forgave them for refusing to give us
independence. Ho Chi Minh was
and after the second time he reacted. My uncle also
wanted independence and would do anything, including
support Communism, to get it.
Once the fighting started, a
of people died,
well over a million
on our side alone. For the war to
continue, a constant stream of new fighters had to join
up, and they didn't have the benefit of such luxuries as
"functional equipment" or "the slightest idea what to
do." Over 90 percent of these new recruits were
teenagers or younger. Many of them weren't even
particularly invested in the "cause" itself. Supporting
Communism or the dream of a united Vietnam was less a
motivator than wanting revenge for the death of a
parent, loved one, or child. The Viet Cong (literally:
the National Liberation Front or just "the front") were
just a means for securing that revenge.
Most of them were aware that Stalin and
Mao each had movements named after them (Stalinism and
Maoism), so they just assumed Socialism was named after
a guy named Social and Communism was named after a guy
named Commun. A distressing number of my co-soldiers
still thought we were fighting France. They knew of Ho
Chi Minh, but only in vague propagandistic terms, not
the man's actual history. When we told them we wanted a
Socialist society, they just said yes because they were
mostly poor, grieving peasants living through a shortage
of damns, and thus had none to spare for politics.
#7. We Were Just as Scared of the
Jungle as the Americans Were
Your movies tend to portray the Viet Cong
as deadly jungle warriors, blending into the foliage and
melting out of the wild to launch continuous surprise
assaults on various Rambos. That's all a big load of
crap: Many of us (including me) came from border towns
and grew up in the hills or the mountains. We had no
more mastery over the jungle than a kid from Oregon has
over Death Valley.
Your bamboo-frame bicycles and
gluten-free kale fritters won't help you here, fellas.
So the jungle was alien to many of us, and unlike most
of the American soldiers, we were stuck spending our
entire war there. My uncle and I didn't trust the tunnel
systems many of the other VC used. They were prone to
collapse, and if that happened over a barracks or a mess
hall it was likely to kill more people than an air
raid. So we did most of our moving around
outside, under the questionable cover of grass mats.
This meant we were not only completely open to rain
storms ... but also to murderous animals. It's easy to
forget, amid all the drama of war, that there were
tigers in that jungle. Easy to forget until
a goddamn tiger
The Jungle Book
may lead you to believe, alpha predators
are very rarely interested in singalongs.
Tigers may be shy, but every once in a
while one of us would disappear in the middle of the
night, and we'd all just sort of understand why. Tigers
don't exactly do end-zone dances after every kill, after
And so many people were killed by snakes.
There were also rats as large as cats, mosquitoes,
spiders, and centipedes to contend with. While you won't
from a centipede bite,
Armed adversaries give you comparatively
good odds of survival. Mother Nature has things uglier
than bullets in her arsenal.
#6. The Fighting Looked Nothing Like
Movies always make the fighting between
Viet Cong and American soldiers look like gruesome,
close-up gun fighting. That kind of stuff happened, sure,
but only when absolutely everyone fucked up. In reality,
even when we were shooting at the enemy, we usually
couldn't see them. There'd be muzzle flashes or tracers
in the distance, and we'd just fire at those. During
more than a decade of fighting, I saw living enemy
soldiers up close only three times.
The first time was right after a
firelight, and we were shocked to see how blackened the
bodies were. We thought they must have been charred by
an explosion until we realized their skin was
It's almost enough to make you wonder if the human
psyche might not be built for life in a war zone.
Thanks to Hollywood, you probably picture
the VC as constantly popping out of holes in the ground
like deadly gophers. But like I said before, my group
avoided those cramped, rickety tunnels full of death
traps like, well ... like cramped, rickety tunnels full
of death traps. You don't need an analogy to understand
why that sounds like a bad idea. But sometimes we'd have
to go really far south, or there'd be exceptionally
clear skies and we'd decide that the tunnel sounded like
marginally more fun than a bomb. The tunnels were
essential for a lot of the VC, though, especially around
Unlike living under the mats, tunnel
living was a whole different world. The big ones had a
kitchen area, with a smokestack jutting out sideways so
the smoke would billow out far away. There was always
rice, usually along with a vegetable or meat (rat or
YOU MAY NOTE THAT THE RUMPUS ROOM IS
But, as always, the great outdoors was
the best bathroom. We generally had to wait for
nightfall to relieve ourselves, but if it was an
emergency, well ... you just kind of hope the bomb hits
you direct, so nobody sees that you died squatting with
your pants around your ankles. Once, in a tunnel near
the Laotian border, we even made a fun game: The goal
was to be the person who could finish their business
outside first. We all got pretty good at this, but once
a guy panicked when he heard the distant drone of a
plane's engine. He leapt back in, spraying piss
It turned out the plane was North
Vietnamese. Everyone laughed, except the guy who'd
sprayed us with his pee: He'd been the record-holder
prior to that point, and now his record was irrevocably
tarnished. With pee.
#5. We Were the Biggest Threat to Our
On a day-to-day basis, enemy soldiers
weren't our biggest threat. We saw more American
leaflets and trash piles than actual combatants::
My group's job was mainly to observe
troops near the Ho Chi Minh trail. Again, we only got
into fights when someone screwed up. But we didn't need
any help, American or otherwise, to get ourselves killed
and mangled: Recruiting undisciplined kids and giving
them more responsibility than a Tamagotchi will see to
Sure, there were VC training centers, but
local recruits rarely attended. For every trained person
we got through a camp, three more came from the
surrounding area with only the vaguest idea of what a
gun was. We provided on-the-job training to our
guerrillas, and that led to disaster. I remember
teaching one recruit, about 17 years old, how to throw a
grenade. He pulled the pin then asked us what to do
next. We were shouting at him to toss it, but he just
waved at us, and watched the fuse burn up to the shell.
It exploded. So did he.
Another recruit was given a Chinese AK to
stand guard with, and then later that day he was asked
to cut down a tree branch to give us better visibility
for the night. Instead of asking for a saw, he flipped
the AK on automatic and proceeded to shoot the branch
down. The branch came down, but a bullet ricocheted off
and killed him. So we had to bury him, as well as find a
new position. His shooting had given us away.
BEFORE YOU GO RAMBOING UP THE YARD WORK,
REMEMBER THERE'S A REASON YOU DON'T SEE THESE AT THE
#4. Our Best Gear Was Old Junk, and It
Usually Came From America
Because we were on the front lines of
South Vietnam, we were pretty far down the food chain
when it came to getting weapons. Some came in through
the Ho Chi Minh trail, but most of those went to the VC
outside of Saigon. With the NVA above us and more
critical Viet Cong below us, the guerrillas in the
middle got the "short bus" weapons.
It worked like this: The Soviets would
make a bunch of AK-47s and send them to China. The
Chinese would keep the Russian AKs and replace them with
inferior knockoffs that they'd produced. The North
Vietnamese Army got the Chinese weapons, along with
whatever WWII-era crap they had left over. Since all of
the "good" weapons from this already-bad lot went to the
NVA and VC near major cities, we mostly wound up with
antiques -- and not even the nice, collectible antiques
that old ladies build nests out of. Just old junk.
WHICH MAY EXPLAIN WHY SOME OF THE MOST
FEARED WEAPONS OF THE WAR LOOK LIKE THEY CAME FROM A
Ironically enough, most of them were
originally American made. M1s (I remember the iconic
"ping" sound) and Thompsons were the norm in the early
years. After fights, there were always enemy M16s
scattered about, but we didn't touch those -- they never
worked right. In one of the few true close-in fights we
had with the Americans, they were actually using AK-47s
Your tax dollars at work..
Toward the end of American involvement,
we were just getting mortars and mortar shells. The
North Vietnamese army was stockpiling everything else
for an invasion of the South. In the jungle where we
were, fired mortar shells could hit a tree branch and go
off prematurely, killing us. So we had to find a way to
use them, which required a lot of trial and error. I was
in my late 20s by this time and by far the oldest living
guy in my squad, so everyone else (all but one a
teenager or younger) asked me to figure out something
"COULD WE JUST ELIMINATE THE TUBE
ALTOGETHER AND LAUNCH THE SHELLS OUT OF A BIG
And yes, we made traps, including those
iconic tiger traps with spikes on the bottom. Those
made more with tigers in mind than any hope of
spearing American GIs. It's, uh ... it's right there in
the name, really. Seriously, tigers are
#3. Our Side's War Crimes Were Often Glossed Over
Whenever "Vietnam War crimes" are mentioned in the West,
people think of
My Lai or Agent
Orange being dumped over large swaths of forests. Those
are both awful things. But, for whatever reason, my own
side gets to walk away whistling suspiciously.
That shouldn't be the case: We committed
war crimes on a regular basis. How do I know? I saw
them. The North Vietnamese Army would purposely target
hospitals and medical areas, because that was where they
could do the most damage. I wouldn't have believed it if
somebody had just told me back during the war -- but I
saw it happen at a base in the Quang Tri area and heard
the order given when we briefly came to an NVA area to
get new orders. We were also occasionally called away
from the trail to watch over a VC or NVA firefight --
having long-range rifles as support was effective. But
many of us would stop firing when we saw villages going
up in smoke or villagers being shot. The VC and NVA
weren't always sure if people near the border were pro-
or anti-American, so rather than take chances, they went
by the "atrocity them all and let god cry it out"
#2. No One Really "Survives" a War
In 1974, with the U.S. out and South
Vietnam operations winding down, my VC group was allowed
to go home. I took the trails up to my village. As I
approached, I started noticing odd things. Signs were
gone, no kids came begging, no travellers walked the
paths to and from the town. It all seemed too quiet. I
remember running up to my village to find nothing. It
was literally all gone..
I FOUND THE REMAINS OF MY NEIGHBOURS AND
To this day I have no idea if the North
Vietnamese, the Americans, or someone else was
responsible. But the way everything was just covered by
a bulldozer indicated the North Vietnamese. Everyone but
my youngest brother was gone (and he would die during
the Chinese War five years later). I'm not special. Ask
any older Vietnamese person: They've all lost many, many
loved ones. And not always due to America or its allies.
I never expected to survive 10 years at the front. And,
to be honest, I still don't really feel like I survived.
#1. Only Time and Support Can Heal
After the war, I moved to Saigon. At that
point I'd never lived in a city and had spent half my
life utterly detached from society. All I knew was how
to hide, kill, and drill. It came out everywhere I went.
I fought people because of the way they were carrying a
loaf of bread, because it looked like they were
smuggling a radio. I had the bathtub taken out of my
apartment and built a custom one out of metal, tarps,
and dirt -- to simulate bathing in a river. In hip U.S.
neighbourhoods, they'd call that something like "paleo
bathing" and charge you a fortune for it, but I just
knew no other way to be. I had to be reminded constantly
to pay for things, because I was just so used to taking
them. I struggled with PTSD and depression. I thought a
lot about suicide.
Go figure. Many of them had similar
experiences: They'd lived, but they had lost their
family and friends in horrific ways. Over months and
years of breaks, lunches, and trade meetings, my group
of co-workers turned into a "Depression Anonymous"
Life is much better now. By the 1990s,
the U.S., Australia, and South Korea all more or less
apologized for their role in the war. Today, the
U.S. is actually viewed
favourably by over three-quarters of the
I went back to the site of my village a
few years ago and found it to be a forest. The sunken
area with the grave is still there, but there is a small
memorial with trees growing over it. It made me feel
oddly at peace: Death had been covered by new life.
Evan V. Symon is the interview finder at
Cracked and was honoured to talk with Nguyen.
Albert Jacka VC
Being the first can
bring rewards. For being the first soldier in the
Australian Imperial Force to receive a Victoria Cross
Lance-Corporal Albert Jacka, 14th Battalion, also
received a gold medal and a purse of £500 from Melbourne
business identity John Wren. Jacka gained the award for
a brave and determined bit of soldiering at Anzac during
the night of 18- 19 May 1915.
establishment of the Anzac line at Gallipoli in early
May 1915, the Turkish commanders began making plans to
force the Anzacs off the peninsula. New divisions were
brought in and a great attack was scheduled for 19 May.
In the words of Kiazim Pasha, Chief of Staff to the
German commander of all Turkish forces on Gallipoli,
Liman Von Sanders: 'The plan was to attack before
day-break, drive the Anzac troops from their trenches,
and follow them down to the sea'.
On the morning of 19
May, in the hour before dawn, the Turkish attack went in
all along the Anzac line. Eventually, with terrible loss
of life by the Turks, it was beaten back. One spot,
however, where the Turks did succeed in driving the
Australians out of a part of their front line trench was
at Courtney 's . Post, defended by the 14th Battalion
from Victoria. The approach to Courtney's was up a
gentle rise from the Turkish side, relatively well
covered with undergrowth. In one spot, the attackers
reached the lip of the Australian trench and, hurling
bombs into it, killed some of the defenders and drove
the rest off. As the Australians pulled back, Turkish
soldiers occupied a few metres of the trench. The enemy,
however, were unable to move up or down the trench
because shots were being fired at them from connecting
communication trenches. Some of these shots were
coming from Lance-Corporal Albert Jacka who was
occupying a fire-step in a firing bay. Two officers who
ran into the trench, trying to get sight of or drive
back the Turks, were both killed.
headquarters there now came another officer, Lieutenant
K Crabbe, whom Jacka warned not to step out into the
firing line. Crabbe asked Jacka if he would charge the
Turks and Jacka replied that he would with some support.
Jacka then led three men around the comer of the trench
against the Turks but all three were quickly hit and he
was forced to retreat. A new plan had Jacka taking a
circuitous route through back trenches to get in behind
the Turks. Once he was in position , another party would
occupy the enemy with a bomb attack. As the bombs
exploded, creating much noise and smoke, Jacka jumped
out into no-man's-land, ran to where the Turks were, and
leapt in among them. He quickly shot five men dead and
bayoneted two more; the remainder fled. As Lieutenant
Crabbe entered the position Jacka, his face 'flushed
with the tremendous excitement he had undergone during
the previous hour' , greeted him saying, 'Well, I
managed to get the beggars, Sir!' He was recommended for
and received the Victoria Cross.
Jacka's award was only
the start of a military career that saw him become a
'living legend' within the AIF. Moreover, it was a
reputation earned by his personal qualities of
leadership in the only area really respected by
front-line soldiers, that of the battlefield itself.
While Jacka could be outspoken and bloody-minded,
attributes which many of his superiors saw as
insubordination and which may had held back his
promotion beyond his eventual rank of captain, everyone
within the AIF came to know of Albert Jacka. In France,
he was twice awarded a Military Cross for actions that
even that judicious evaluator of men, the official
historian Charles Bean, felt should have earned him two
bars to his Victoria Cross. At Pozieres on the Somme in
1916, arguably the most terrible battle the AIF was ever
involved in, Jacka's presence of mind and courage
virtually saved the day when a German counter attack
had broken through the line. As forty Australian
prisoners were being led by the triumphant Germans,
Jacka, at the head of seven men, burst among them.
Despite being hurled from his feet several times by
explosions and wounded in the head and shoulder, Jacka
killed nearly a score of Germans on his own and
bayoneted others. The 14th Battalion's historian, N
Wanliss, described this as a 'brilliant counter-attack'
and Charles Bean was also lavish in his praise
describing Jacka's action as 'the most dramatic and
effective act of individual audacity in the history of
the AIF'. From an official historian, who personally
read over the stories of thousands of brave men that he
included in his battle narratives, this was exceptional
Albert Jacka died in
1932 and at his funeral his coffin was carried by eight
Australian VCs. On his grave these words were cut:
'Captain Albert Jacka VC
MC and Bar, 14th Battalion, AIF.
The first VC in the Great
A gallant soldier. An
For years his old
comrades of the 14th Battalion held a memorial service
by his grave. After they passed on, that annual act
of remembrance was continued by St Kilda
Council, Melbourne. But perhaps the greatest tribute
that was paid to Jacka was by another battalion
historian , E J Rule,who called his book Jacka's Mob, a
title he explained in these words:
Not we only, but ...
the whole AIF came to look upon him as a rock of
strength that never failed. We of the 14th Battalion
never ceased to be thrilled when we heard ourselves
to in the estaminet [French public house]
or by passing units on the march as
'some of Jack's mob'
During World War
II the United
more tons of
products than of
all other war
mainstay of the
network that fed
the war was the
trucks. But for
on the move,
another link was
could be carried
and poured by
hand and moved
around a battle
zone by trucks.
on that the
weakest link in
his plans for
fuel supply. He
staff to design
a fuel container
conditions. As a
German army had
jerry cans, as
they came to be
and ready when
began in 1939.
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secrecy, and its
were many. It
as in a typical
It had three
enabling one man
to carry two
cans and pass
one to another
to an air
chamber at the
top, it would
float on water
from a plane.
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was secured with
a snap closure
that could be
propped open for
opener. A gasket
made the mouth
leak proof. An
tube from the
spout to the air
space kept the
can’s inside was
lined with an
the insides of
jerry can to be
for gasoline and
Early in the
summer of 1939,
weapon began a
finishing up a
job in Berlin,
to join him on a
India. The two
built a body for
it. As they
leave on their
they had no
engineer knew of
and had access
to thousands of
jerry cans stored
mounted them on
the underside of
The two drove
and were halfway
sent a plane to
take the German
on alone to
he put the car
in storage and
Back in the
but without a
sample can he
could stir no
though the war
was now well
under way. The
risk involved in
having the cans
removed from the
car and shipped
great, so he
vehicle sent to
him, via Turkey
and the Cape of
Good Hope. It
arrived in New
York in the
summer of 1940
with the three
one of the cans
looked at it but
that an updated
version of their
World War I
be good enough.
That was a
with two screw
wrench and a
jerry can in the
later sent to
There it was
the size, shape,
and handles. The
bottom and one
side. Both a
wrench and a
required for its
use. And it now
had no lining.
As any petroleum
it is unsafe to
in a container
ersatz can did
not win wide
jerry can during
Norway, in 1940,
and gave it its
were, of course,
Later that year
Pleiss was in
London and was
asked by British
officers if he
about the can’s
second of his
three jerry cans
flown to London.
Steps were taken
Two years later
States was still
oblivious of the
can. Then, in
the Mideast ran
smack into the
jerry can. I was
one of those
two weeks before
the start of the
Battle of El
learned that the
no part of a
Navy can; as far
as they were
worth having was
the Jerry can,
supply was those
years after the
Norway there was
the jerry can.
My colleague and
the jerry can's
the Allied can’s
and we sent a
cable to naval
stating that 40
percent of all
sent to Egypt
was being lost
We added that a
The 40 percent
actually a guess
but it worked. A
cable came back
We then arranged
a visit to
depots at the
army and found
arrived by rail
from the sea in
steel drums with
rolled seams and
The drums were
Many leaked. The
next link in the
chain was the
This was a
square can of
tin plate that
had been used
for decades to
kerosene. It was
for gasoline. In
the hot desert
sun, it tended
to swell up,
burst at the
seams, and leak.
Since a funnel
was needed for
also a problem.
in Africa knew
that the only
perhaps a third
of the fuel they
of this, General
of the Italians
in North Africa
in 1940 had come
to naught. His
run out of gas.
In 1942 General
to it that he
whip Rommel in
wastage. And he
was helped by
oil cans in the
part of the war.
“No one who did
not serve in the
realize to what
on the simplest
item of our
Whoever sent our
petrol tin has
much to answer
this ‘flimsy and
to the loss of
thirty per cent
between base and
consumer. … The
overall loss was
the number of
men who were
killed or went
petrol at some
the ships and
lost in carrying
it, would be
colleague and I
made our report,
up for mass
jerry cans were
sent to North
Africa in early
1943, and by
early 1944 they
the Middle East.
British had such
a head start,
agreed to let
them produce all
the cans needed
for the invasion
ready by D-day.
By V-E day some
jerry cans had
all over Europe.
cans it would
our armies to
cut their way
across France at
a lightning pace
the German Blitz
In Washington little about the
jerry can appears in the official
record. A military report says
simply, “A sample of the jerry can
was brought to the office of the
Quartermaster General in the summer
army loses if it
does not won,
wins if he does
- In terms of discomfort and
endurance, the Burma front was the only
Second-World-War equivalent of Great- War trench
life faced by the British army.
- France has lost the battle
but she has not lost the war.
- The problems of victory
are more agreeable than those of defeat, but
they are still no less difficult.
- To conquer the world with
arms is only to make a temporary conquest; to
conquer the world by earning its esteem is to
make a permanent conquest.
Things to Think About
Advice is what we ask for when we
already know the answer and wish we didn’t.
Never walk through the office
without a piece of paper in your hand.
Always be the one to start rumors,
otherwise you wont know if they are true.
If a light sleeper sleeps with the
light on, does a hard sleeper sleep with the window
If necessity is the mother of
invention, how come so much unnecessary junk gets
Charles Dickens walks into a bar.
The bartender said: “Olive or twist?”
Did you hear about the new chain of
coffee shops in Russia? - It’s called Tsarbucks.
What’s the difference between a
lawyer and a herd of buffalo? - A lawyer charges more.
I wanted to be a sea fisherman, but
I couldn’t live off my net income.
Correspondence from Members
Listed below is some of the correspondence
received since the last Newsletter.
These emails are reproduced here for
entertainment and also to keep members
informed of other members movements, etc.
Please note: QURA receives emails/letters from time to time requesting contact
details of members. The current policy is if a fellow member requests
contact with another member, the contact details are given without
contacting the relevant member.
Where contact is requested by a non-member, the contact is referred to the
individual member to follow up the contact if they so desire.
Bond, Michael COL
To: Peter Morton
Subject: RE: QURA May
Please accept my apologies
for functions for the next
I am deploying as the United
Nations Senior Military
Liaison Officer in South
Sudan. I will double-hat as
the Commander of the
Australian Contingent. Great
jobs for Reservists. Home in
From:- Peter McCann
I am currently working at AHQ on CFTS,
filling in for a deployed member, on a
project for modernisation of the
Bushmaster PMV . I intend to retire
again in September and will be living in
the Port Stephens area north of
Newcastle. I certainly didn't think I
would still be in a uniform aged 64 but
they keep making me offers I can't
I am also living testimony to Army's
flexible employment strategy having been
in the ARA twice, on a short service
commission, an active Reservist, a
Standby Reservist employed on DA50 and
three periods of CFTS. I am very
fortunate to be still serving in my 46th
year in the ADF.
SO2 Mounted Combat Development
Directorate of Major Systems Development
19 May 2015 07:30
7 Bde All Staff
link to an ANZAC Day
speech delivered in
Melbourne a very
good and different
7th Combat Bde
To:- Peter Morton
Regarding the photos in the newsletter -
the 1986 Sub 1 Cpl camp was held at
The tall private standing behind the SI
went on to become the CO of the Regt,
although with a lot less hair by then.
To: Trevor Luttrell
Subject: Interview -
Take five minutes
to watch this video
interview -- and listen
what he says and how he says
it. I promise you, you won't
regret a second of it.
how many of the few
surviving WWII veterans
and their uniform in such
for over 70 years
and can still proudly wear
Notice his superb
delivery, no teleprompter,
no script -- just a
pilot. He has some
surprises and a great take
on the philosophy of life.
Make sure you watch it to
To:- Peter Morton
enlisted in May 1950 . I heard about the
CMF on the bus out to a St.Lucia
lecture. I visited the QUR office in the
Domain area of the UQ Gardens Campus and
got enlistment papers. Since I was 19 I
had to go home on the train to Wynnum to
get parents signatures. I was told I
could get a medical that evening at 9 Bn
at Kelvin Grove Barracks which I did and
got my Kings Shilling, literally. QUR
was only a 60 strength company. I got
uniforms and webbing the following
Sunday at QUR and went to camp the next
weekend. 9Bn and 25Bn were in camp.
Wacol was a freezing hole. One week’s
minor training then on a convoy to
Noosa. It took all day. The whole week
was live fire exercises. All officers
,WO were ex WW2. We were based at Golden
Beach Noosa . The area to the south was
a live firing exercise range. Most of
the 25 pounder shoot on the platoon,
company and battalion attacks was
targeted on Coolum. We had Vickers
support. RAAF mustangs dropped napalm,
bombs and fired machine guns as we
attacked. This was 3 weeks from
On Saturday morning
(ANZAC day) I ran into an ex-QUR member,
Toby St George. I'm not sure if he is a
member of the QURA, but he was keen to
re-connect with QUR. His brief history
The lifesaver at an
afternoon swim had a Bren and loaded
I was commissioned in QUR
in 1953.I later served in 10Bn
Adelaide,27Bn Mt Gambier, CSTU
Melbourne,1 RVR pentropic, 6RVR
Melbourne, 4TF HQ, CSTU Brisbane ,9RQR
Sp Coy OC then Bn 2ic. And finished up
In Vietnam I was attached
to 7 RAR.
A reservist that served
in Vietnam seemed quite rare.
From:- Bill Beach
To:- Peter Morton
You may be interested
esp. in the photographs of the trumpet.
This is a part of my job
that is interesting…. Pity more wasn’t
Maryborough Military & Colonial Museum [mailto:email@example.com]
Sent: Monday, 9 March 2015 8:48
Subject: Follow up on the trumpet
If anybody can assist Bill Beach, please
contact him direct. In 1986, Bill was
an officer at the Queensland University
Regiment and I was a WO2 instructor/WO
With two other fellows we walked the
Kokoda Track/Trail.......a great
experience in life!
Thanks and regards
-------- Forwarded Message --------
up on the trumpet - WW1
Fri, 6 Mar
2015 02:43:23 +0000
Maryborough Military & Colonial Museum
I need help from the MHSA
A woman turned up with
this trumpet the other day.
Captured 1918 as per the
The name of the German
soldier is also inscribed.
Carmel is looking into
its history – it will be donated to the
AWM along with postcards etc & a diary
Thoughts about the
From:- Bruce Davis
To:- Peter Morton
On Saturday 28 February 2015,
the Queensland University Regiment conducted
a cocktail party at the United Services Club
for the initial six First Appointment Course
Graduates of 2015.
Lieutenants Russell Fox, RAA,
and Chris Rawlinson, RAInf, are posted to
25/49 RQR; Lieutenant Matt Doolan, RAInf, to
9 RQR; Lieutenant Richard Bell, RAE, to 11
ER; and Lieutenant Shane Devries, RACT, and
Lieutenant Matt Sokolich, RAEME, are posted
to 11 CSSB.
Bruce Davis represented the
president at the function and presented
personal letters from the QURA to each
The function was very well
attended, with the Commander 11 Bde,
Brigadier Bill Date, Deputy Commander 11
Brigade, Colonel Michael Bond, and
Commanding Officers of units to which the
officers were posted, among those present.
OC Jacka Company, MAJ Michael Stone, was
Master of Ceremonies and the Platoon
Commander, Captain Sam Mitchell, presented
the new Lieutenants.
Bruce represented our
president, Brigadier Trevor Luttrell, who
was in hospital recovering from an
operation. A senior NCO at the function
noted his absence with surprise - "He's at
all our functions," was the comment, and
certainly even at Bruce's height, he could
not fully represent the president!
A most successful evening,
and best wishes to our newest graduates.
From:- Bruce Davis
Have surfaced again after
nearly three weeks in the Battle Simulation
Centre at Enoggera and hope to see you
How are you recovering?
PS Nice Thank You letter from
QUR for the Association (attached).
From:- John Hammond
To:- Trevor Luttrell
wise person once
1. We all love
to spend money
clothes but we
that the best
moments in life
2. Having a cold
drink on hot day
with a few
friends is nice,
but having a hot
friend on a cold
night after a
few drinks -
3. Arguing over
a girl's bust
size is like
VB, Carlton, XXXX, & Tooheys.
Men may state
4. I haven't
verified this on
Google, but it
sounds legit… A
found that women
who carry a
longer than the
men who mention
To:- Peter Morton
March Get Together
Regrettably I have
had a better offer (of long standing
I must admit) – I will be cycling
down the South Coast of NSW so I
can’t be at the function. My
apologies to all.
All the best
(BTW – I hope to get
my OBE later this year – Over Bloody
Eighty! Whitlam couldn’t stop that
one, but maybe Tony can devise a
Dear Peter Morton:
Many thanks for your latest
invitation to the Regimental Social on 18
March. Over the last few years you have
sent me many invitations, most of which I
have declined. My last attendance at a
Regimental function (and I have attended
only two) was some ten years ago when my
photograph was taken with one of the few
members I knew. I feel that I would be
attending your meetings under false
pretences, since when I left National
Service in 1953, I attended no parades with
the Regiment but almost immediately
transferred into 3 Interrogation Company,
Northern Command. There is almost nobody I
know now connected with the regiment, and
while thanking you for your continuing
attention, I think it best that you remove
my name from your mailing list.
Cordially, Barrie Hayne
From:- Richard Gavin
To:- Peter Morton
Subjec:- Why Man are
Men Are Just Happier People --
What do you expect from such simple
Anything a man says after that is the
beginning of a new argument.
Your last name stays put.
The garage is all yours.
Wedding plans take care of themselves.
Chocolate is just another snack...
You can never be pregnant.
You can wear a white T-shirt to a water
You can wear NO shirt to a water park.
Car mechanics tell you the truth.
The world is your urinal.
You never have to drive to another gas
station restroom because this one is just
You don't have to stop and think of which
way to turn a nut on a bolt.
Wrinkles add character.
Wedding dress $5000. Tux rental-$100.
People never stare at your chest when you're
talking to them.
New shoes don't cut, blister, or mangle your
One mood all the time.
Phone conversations are over in 30 seconds
You know stuff about tanks.
A five-day vacation requires only one
You can open all your own jars.
If someone forgets to invite you, he or she can still be your friend.
Your underwear is $8.95 for a three-pack.
Three pairs of shoes are more than enough.
Everything on your face stays its original
The same hairstyle lasts for years, even
You only have to shave your face and neck.
You can play with toys all your life.
One wallet and one pair of shoes -- one
color for all seasons.
You can wear shorts no matter how your legs
You can 'do' your nails with a pocket knife.
You have freedom of choice concerning
growing a mustache.
You can do Christmas shopping for 25
relatives nn December 24 in 25 minutes.
Men Are Just Happier People
If Laura, Kate and Sarah go out for lunch,
they will call each other Laura, Kate and
Sarah. If Mike, Dave and John go out, they
will affectionately refer to each other as
Fat Boy, Bubba and Wildman.
When the bill arrives, Mike, Dave and John
will each throw in $20, even though it's
only for $32.50. None of them will have
anything smaller and none will actually
admit they want change back.
When the girls get their bill, outcome the
A man will pay $2 for a $1 item he needs.
A woman will pay $1 for a $2 item that she
doesn't need but it's on sale.
A man has six items in his bathroom:
toothbrush and toothpaste, shaving cream,
razor, a bar of soap, and a towel.
The average number of items in the typical
woman's bathroom is 337. A man would not be
able to identify more than 20 of these
A woman has the last word in any argument.
A woman worries about the future until she
gets a husband.
A man never worries about the future until
he gets a wife.
A woman marries a man expecting he will
change, but he doesn't.
A man marries a woman expecting that she
won't change, but she does.
A woman will dress up to go shopping, water
the plants, empty the trash, answer the
phone, read a book, and get the mail.
A man will dress up for weddings and
Men wake up as good-looking as they went to
Women somehow deteriorate during the night.
Ah, children. A woman knows all about her
children. She knows about dentist
appointments and romances, best friends,
favorite foods, secret fears and hopes and
A man is vaguely aware of some short people
living in the house.
THOUGHT FOR THE DAY
A married man can forget his mistakes.
There's no use in two people remembering the
To:- Peter Morton
Maryborough Military & Colonial Museum
Sent: Monday, 9 March 2015 8:43 PM
Subject: New RSM at Kapooka
Move over boys we are
The Commandant at RMC
recently told me that nearly all her HQ
staff are females.
FUNCTIONS - 2015
March Get Together
18 March 2015 -
25 April 2015 - 0430Hrs
- No QUR function at Depot)
QUR Birthday Celebration
Saturday 9 May 2015
(All day - incl displays, etc . Messes will be open)
17 September 2015 - ( 1900Hrs for 1930Hrs)
(Note change of date)
Officers/SNCO Mixed Dinner
October 2015 (Unit and QURA members and Partners)
Wednesday 9 December 2015 -
1730Hrs (Normanby Hotel)
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HISTORY OF QUR
Have you considered purchasing a copy of the History of QUR
magnificently complied and edited by Paul Smith?
It contains 128 pages of stories, photographs and has a
coloured badged cover.
$15 per copy.
What about a CD containing over 100 images of the history of
$10 per copy.
Why not treat yourself to a copy or buy copies for your
friends. These are collectors items so don't miss out.
How to purchase copies:
0437 442 964
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