November 2008
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Volume 20 Number 4

          November 2008

What's in this Issue

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Presidents Report

CO's Report

My Time in East Timor - LtCol Williamson

Reorganization of University Regiments

Correspondence from Members

Personnel Records Enquiry

Christmas Party 2008 Article from RAAF News
War Quotes Things to Think About

Quotable Quotes

Photos from QURA Archives

Functions in 2008

Membership Dues

QURA Office Bearers



President's Report


Again we face the end of the year.  Since the last newsletter the Annual General Meeting and Dinner was held.  Over 30 members attended the function and all enjoyed themselves.  Normal meeting agenda items were presented.  This past year we were fortunate enough to make a slight profit with our finances.  Once again an election of officers for the Executive Management Committee was conducted. All members from the committee from last year were re-elected unopposed.  All attendees were fascinated to hear of the adventures of Brigadier Peter Jeffrey and LTCOL Ross Williamson when they served overseas, Peter in Iraq and Ross in Timor. Part of Ross’s speech is reproduced in this newsletter.  All attendees thanked both presenters.


Unfortunately the Commanding Officer, LTCOL Jenny Cotton, was unable to attend but the Second in Command, Maj Kerry Tscherepko very capably stood in for the CO and presented a comprehensive view of the current status of the Regiment.  Brigadier Sam Harrison brought to the attention of the members news of an assault against the continuation of our band.  He spoke of changes to the eligibility for new members to join the band virtually preventing university members from being able to serve.  This was due to the levels of qualification required.  It was resolved that the Association make representations to Army expressing our concern over any decisions which may contribute to the demise of the band. (A letter has been sent to the Chief of Army).

It is nearing the end of command for our Commanding Officer, Jenny Cotton. On behalf of all the members of QURA I would like to congratulate her for her service during her command.  She has faced many changes to the design of the unit during her time. Thanks to LTCOL Jenny.

I have enclosed in this newsletter two documents referring to the reorganization of University Regiments across Australia. These two documents were published in “The Australian Reservist” Issue 11 September 2008, The Official Journal of the Defence Reserves Association. I have also included an article from the “RAAF News” which included Paul Deighton attending a Chinese language school. QURA acknowledges and thanks both newsletter editors for the documents copied for your information.

The final activity for the year is the Christmas function. The details are published further in the newsletter. You will note that we had to change the venue from the Victory Hotel to the Grosvenor Hotel due to the fire at the Victory Hotel. All members,  their partners and friends are invited. You can arrive as late as you wish and leave when you want. Just come along and have few drinks and a snack.

Please note that in the early new year another newsletter will be published before the Back to the Regiment function. As usual we will inform you by email of the dates and times.

Before I finish these notes I want to again recognize the skill and time which Peter Morton applies to his task of producing the newsletters. I have received compliments from many people all over Australia including from the Department of Defence for the professional nature of the newsletter and website. Personally I wish to thank Peter for his time and effort. It would assist us to produce newsletters by everyone contributing some small memory of their time in QUR. Just type up a small article and email it to us. I also wish to thank all the members of the Executive Management Committee for their support throughout the year.

I wish you all a safe and healthy festive break and look forward to sharing time with you at the Xmas drinks.




CO's Report November 2008

As we move into the final month of the training year, I feel an immense sense of personal and professional satisfaction of how well the Regiment has performed and the high quality of training that has been provided to the officer cadets on their quest to become young leaders of the future.

In January 2008, the revised First Appointment Course (FAC) was implemented by all University Regiments in Australia. Although QUR was not identified as a Centre of Expertise for the delivery of the Residential Training Blocks (RTB), staff willingly assisted as Directing Staff (DS) for all of the other Regiments in the conduct of the courses. In August, RMC-A conducted a curriculum review to validate the new FAC curriculum and this has resulted in some changes, but from my perspective, for the better. There will be almost no new learning between the Residential Training Blocks with a focus on consolidating what was learnt and ensuring that SCDTs are fully prepared for the next Training Block. Emphasis is now on the fundamental skills of leadership, field-craft, navigation, quick decision making and fitness to ensure that the SCDT are set up for success whenever they attend the RTB. Most importantly, QUR will be providing more field time and less classroom activities to ensure that the skills for SCDT to lead in complex, challenging and ambiguous environments will be achieved.

I want to thank the staff of Jacka Coy for their hard work, passion and dedication to develop the curriculum into a mature and high quality product and their outstanding contribution to the weekend activities that will ensure quality leaders for the future – MAJ Rob Brennan (OC), CAPT Luke Hughes (XO), CAPT Narelle Peach (SO3 Plans), CAPT Scott Revell (2IC), CAPTs Peita Foster, Adrian Walsh, Dan Healy , and Ian McNab (PL Comd), WO2 Bugsy Malone (CSM), SGTs Andrew Hardwick, Shirley Wyatt, Darren Fearn and Gordon Hauenschild (PL SGT) and SGT Elona Drain who provides the continuity and admin support to ensure that the Coy runs efficiently and effectively.

I also thank the staff in the Owen Stanley Pl in North Queensland Company, for their hard work and providing quality training to the geographically dispersed SCDT of NQ – MAJ Warwick Hamilton, CAPTs Ian Reid, Andrew Kirby, Ralph Lake and Craig McSwan, WO2 Kokanavic, Johnstone, SGTs Brown, Brining and Smith.

Earlier this year, MAJ Rob Brennan was successful in being appointed as the Coy Comd for Rifle Company Butterworth Rotation 84.  He deployed in late October, but not before encouraging several other staff members from Jacka Coy to take the opportunity of a lifetime and also deploy. I am pleased and proud to say that CAPT Hughes, WO2 Malone, SGT Wyatt and the RSM WO1 Michael Cox have also taken this opportunity.  While this means that QUR has a few gaps to fill, these opportunities to deploy overseas to practise what we train for is crucial to their development and life experiences. I’ve heard the MAJ Brennan is having a hard time adjusting to the view from his quarters – Malacca Strait by day, and the twinkling night lights of Penang by night.

Might I also add that we have also deployed several soldiers who are taking this opportunity to undertake the Junior Leaders Course (Sub 1 CPL) – PTEs McWhirter, McLean and Doxanakis. SGT Bright also deployed to assist in his corps trade to repair weapons.

In July 2008, QUR transferred from under command Training Comd to Land Comd as part of 11 Bde. QUR has been re-roled to the Regional Training Battalion and from January 2009 will conduct the following courses:
* Grade 2 Officer Training (Centre of Expertise) – National Cse – 3 annually
* Grade 3 Officer Training (Centre of Expertise) – National Cse – 3 annually
* Infantry Initial Employment Training – Modules 1 & 2 – Regional Cse – 3 each annually
* Driver Training – Regional Cse – 5 annually
* First Appointment Course - Non-Residential Training – 11 weekends annually

Over the past six months, the ARA OPS team of CAPT Sam Waite, WO2s Kerry McGreevy and Bruce Harvey have been heavily involved with 11 Bde and QUR GRES staff in planning for the conduct of these courses including resource planning up to 4 years out, booking training areas and ranges, sourcing instructors for each of the course with suitable qualifications. This has been a mammoth task negotiating with higher priority units and different stakeholders to ensure that come 17 January when our first course commences, that the Regiment is fully prepared. The high tempo of training next year commences with the following courses (not including FAC non residential training):
* 17 – 18 Jan 09 Induction Trg – all QUR
* 17 – 30 Jan 09 INF IET Mod 1
* 31 Jan – 15 Feb 09 INF IET Mod 2
* 31 Jan – 15 Feb 09 Grade 3 Officer Training Module 1
* 31 Jan – 15 Feb 09 MR Driver Training

To achieve the increased training liability, the Regiment increases from 8 to 22 ARA members. However the future of the current Training Support Coy has not been resolved. Most Bdes have been structured with a Brigade Operational Support Centre (BOSC) which will conduct all the logistic and administrative functions for the ARES units located in SQ. However with the geographical dispersion of the SQ ARES units, how this will occur is still to be completed. In the meantime, Log Spt Coy will continue to function from Witton Barracks in 2009. I thank the OC MAJ Rob Sawford, CAPT Chris Dzian (2IC), WO2 Bowman and SGT Heslin (CSM) and his team of soldiers for the excellent support to all of the activities this year.

Some new faces in the Regiment in next year will be MAJ Mal Bishop – OPSO, MAJ Ewan Cameron – OC NQC, MAJ Craig Campbell – OC Jacka Coy, MAJ Peter Walsh – Soldier Trg Coy, MAJ Craig Schilling – OC Officer Trg Coy and WO1 Red Barron – RSM.

I wish to acknowledge and thank the Regiment’s 2IC MAJ Kerry Tscherepko for her hard work, dedication and loyal support in dealing with the day to day administration, NPMA, SOP, Standing Orders and functions so that I could focus on the strategic direction of the Regiment.  MAJ Tscherepko remains as the 2IC for 2009 to support the incoming Commanding Officer, LTCOL Tim O’Brien. LTCOL O’Brien has been the Chief Instructor at LWC (SQ) for the past two years, and he will be an asset to the Regiment with his wealth of background knowledge in officer training.

Finally, may I wish all of the Association’s members a very safe and relaxing Christmas, and I hope to catch up with you at your Christmas Drinks in December.

Par Oneri

Jenny Cotton
Lieutenant Colonel
Commanding Officer
Queensland University Regiment



My Time in East Timor by LtCol Ross Williamson

This is the after dinner speech delivered by Lt Col Ross Williamson at the QURA 2008 AGM


Thanks for the opportunity to talk about my time in East Timor.  I was fortunate enough to serve 11 months over there as the Team Leader for a group of UN Military Liaison Officers.  All were full-time military people from around the world.

 I spent the first half in Oecussi and the second half in Maliana.



 Like all good military undertaking it all starts with a mission. Our mission in Timor was to monitor and report the security environment within the border districts and assist the continuance of constructive border relationship between the TNI and BPU in order to ensure the restoration and maintenance of public security to enable the holding of the Parliamentary and Presidential elections in 2007.

 This broke down into several specific tasks:

  •  To maintain a permanent UN Military presence to assist TNI and BPU develop and maintain constructive working relationship and ensure a secure and stable border region within the AO is sustained

  •  To observe and report on the security situation and on security related issues occurring in the districts.

  •  To conduct mobile patrols that will monitor observe and report security related activities

  •  Facilitate outstanding border demarcation processes as requested by the parties and approved by the SRSG

  • Liaise with UN agencies and local authorities in order to evaluate and facilitate the assigned tasks.

 So in few words the task was to get out and meet and talk to people and find out what was going on. All of this unarmed and without access to weapons. One of the first things I found out was that my daily report on our activities went almost unedited before the SRSG (Special Representative of the Secretary General) the very next morning. He relied on our unbiased opinions to find out the truth of what was happening out and about. This bypassed the usual bureaucracy.

 Conditions in East Timor

 Overall the climate in East Timor is tropical. The minimum temperature range is 18-21°C while the maximum temperature range is 26-32°C. The rainy season in Oecussi begins later than the rest of the country in November and is usually accompanied by a westerly monsoon. For us the months of May and October are months of change from dry to wet season.

 The ecology of East Timor is influenced by its topography and hence it is dominated by a coastal ecosystem where flat low lying areas are used for rice growing and the mountain regions are used for corn and other food crops.

 East Timor’s seas are the habitat of many species of fish, including fish that have high economic value such as tuna, skipjack, mackerel, and snapper. The entire coastline has exposed coral reefs that are a source of food and shelter for many kinds of sea organisms, and are also could be a valuable natural tourist attraction.

 There is widespread deforestation. The farmers use a slash and burn technique especially just before the wet season to prepare the land for crops.

 The population is approximately 1.2 million people with an average age of about 15 and most young people are without gainful employment. The average life expectancy is 49. The country is predominantly subsistence farming with small excesses sold to finance transport and other needs. Transportation costs in the country are a significant cost to the community being over 25% of income.

 Oecussi is and does feel isolated from the rest of the country and this affects their attitudes to the government in Dili and the rest of the country.


Here is a view of the Tono River valley in Oecussi. You can see the grey gravelly bottom of the river running to the coast between the very steep and rugged hills


Typically the roads are cut when trees fall across them as the people only have hand tools to clear them and an apathy about doing someone else’s work.


In Oecussi especially the roads run up the rivers during the dry like here.


Roads throughout the country suffer from landslides


Our office

 Our offices may not look like much in the photos however they were better than what the locals have. These “temporary” buildings have been moved a couple of times and are very near their end of life but they were waterproof. They had 24 hour power, fast internet and phone access all via a satellite dish. I certainly became an expert in maintaining and resetting the system. We also had pressurised showers (cold water) and flushing toilets although you certainly could not drink the water as it was proven contaminated.


UN Facilities in Oecussi but typical of those through the border regions outside Dili.


Public Amenities

 Most towns outside of Dili if they have public generation of electricity it lasts generally only 6PM till Midnight and may not be every night. People who need reliable power generate their own.

 There is very limited district hospital capabilities and if you get sick you tend to fly to Darwin. Again limited electricity means almost no x-ray capability outside Dili.

 Very limited telephone / mobile phone / internet coverage outside Dili. For example only one company outside Timor Telecom had internet access in the whole of Oecussi and it was slow. Timor Telecom had two public computers. One of the most immediate benefits I did on arrival was organize two spare computers for the use of the NGO’s. As a side benefit this also gave us access to them to hear what was going on and developed a friendship between our organizations.

 There were only two radio channels being Radio Democratic Timor Leste (the official government channel) and community radio (which operated when there was power).

 The limitations include no newspapers except Dili, sewerage and water in main towns only, limited and relatively expensive transport and few hotels outside Dili. These soon got filled up as the mission expanded during the second half of my time there.



The five star hotel accommodation


Usual squat toilet arrangement with water trough for flushing and for a shower.


One of the benefits of the UN was the twice weekly shuttle service of the MI-8 helicopters. These transported people and spare parts. NGO’s and UN staff rode fairly freely if they booked but it provided only limited service to the locals who were forced to rely on ferries, buses or private vehicles. Seen pictured here is a group of eye doctors and nurses who came to issue sunglasses and do minor surgery for a week period.



Timorese Border Police

 The Unit Policia Fronteir of UPF was the Timorese police responsible for border control. They number about 200 persons and work shifts at the official border crossings and patrol adjacent to these as well. They lived in and occupied primitive facilities such as this shown but maintained high morale.

UPF Post at Post 6 in District of Oecussi

Much of our time was spent mentoring them in patrolling and basic infantry skills. I must say they were not very effective but this was more from lack of equipment and training than for any other reason. They were meant to be fed by the government but this did not always work so eventually the system paid them an allowance and let them organise local arrangements. They had also adopted in very limited ways and in isolated cases the minor corruption that many Asian nations suffer from. Mostly this consisted of seeking bribes to facilitate border crossings.


Indonesian Military

 By contrast the Indonesian military were located opposite the UPF and had new facilities with good equipment and uniforms. The majority being Muslims they did not drink but they certainly smoked. A packet of cigarettes in Timor was US$1 and none of your mild or extra milds here. Most people smoked. I remember one memorable trip as a guest of the TNI travelling through West Timor to a meeting in Motaain. I was in a TNI Suzuki Vitara with two motorcycle outriders to clear the other traffic off the road. The Corporal escort I had loved the trip and the power he exercised on behalf of his Battalion. Fortunately no-one was hurt in this high speed trip.



TNI Post at Batugade


UN and other Agencies

 In most areas of the country we had a mix of outsiders working to help the local population. These included:

  •        UNOPS

  •        Caritas

  •        OzGreen

  •        Philipino Construction Company

  •        UNDP

  •        Oxfam

  •        Portuguese teachers ( teaching the Timorese teachers Portuguese so they could teach the children)

 Most were involved in food production and health programs. Most were quite lowly paid relative to the UN people but were highly motivated to help the local populace. We interacted with all of the agencies and helped them in whatever way we could.



Security Situation

 The reality was that during my time there the situation was generally calm and peaceful. The one exception was when Major Reinaldo stole those weapons and in the aftermath was eventually pursued by the Australian forces. His first robbery was only 5 kilometres from my base in Maliana and we were the first on the scene with armed UN police behind us. I later was checked out very thoroughly by what I now believe was his escort bodyguard vehicle after the Australian forces had attacked his hill top hideout and he escaped. Quite scary but fortunately I had a clearly Chinese officer with me that day.


Despite all the rhetoric after the police and army clash in April 2006 the majority of the people are just getting on with their lives – remembering that growing food is their predominant requirement.


The TNI do bring problems as they are heavily armed and have a history of domination over the people throughout all of Timor. They also greatly outnumber the UPF and have access to heavier weapons such as machine guns. We had one incident we calmed down where a patrol “strayed” across the border by 3 kilometres despite a local guide carrying the normal patrol equipment including a LMG. Ultimately the guides were arrested and paid money to return home whilst the soldiers were simply escorted back home.

Much of the infrastructure is still trashed despite all the years since 1999/2000. As shown the old police station in Oecussis – destroyed in 1999 is still awaiting repairs. In the mean time the police operate out of deserted UN buildings that were restored or built during the early Interfet days. The government is very slowly restoring many of the buildings but much of the private buildings have disputes over ownership as the owners fled into West Timor and are not yet repatriated or been able to sell their properties.

Most of the situations we got involved in were local domestic problems such as wives running away across the border to get away from violence or other unhappy situations. Given a heavy reliance on a dowry system and the high cost of “purchasing” a wife in many districts this was not always solved peacefully.


My Role

 My leadership role mainly centred around:

  •           Managing diversity – at various stages I had Brazilian, Portuguese, Malaysian, Singaporean, Philipino, Balngladesh and Chinese officers working for me. All with varying motivations, English literacy and driving skills. They all came from army, air-force and marines. We also worked along side people from many nations of the world. I needed to work to their strengths and try and deal with their weaknesses.

  •        Support through the loneliness – I was lucky as I got a trip home every 3 months but the others only got 1 trip home but did visit local asian places for another 2 trips out of timor.

  •        My soldiers earning immense amount of money relatively. (We were paid a subsistence allowance of US$3000 per month compared to an average income of US$1-3 per day)

  •        Preventing abuse of locals – in light of the above there was a tremendous temptation to use this abundance of money for evil purposes. Some people did have “mission” wives but not on my staff.

  •        Active listening – to pick up the subtleties of what people were saying versus what they thought we wanted to hear.

  •        Using interpreters /language assistants to get the information from people balanced against the particular persons political affiliations as well as friendships of family relationships.

  •        Stuff breaks and trying to find out how to fix it. In many cases vital equipment had been given to the locals in the close up of the mission before the troubles and now needed to be gotten back from them.

  •        UN “Rules” on what help we could or more likely could not give to various organisations or locals.


Local welcome committee dressed in traditional tice


 It was a tremendous opportunity and I am ever thankful for the opportunity to have served in this role as my career reaches its end.

 The UN is a hard organisation to work for as it is very bureaucratic and is filled with frustratingly self interested people. My statistics is that:

-          60% actively do nothing as they plan their next break out of mission and will;

-          30% are actively working towards their next job and may help you if this primary goal is met by helping you; and

-          10% are the actual ones that do work and know how to organise work. You find these people and then put them in your speed dial when you need to get things done.

 In my naivety I thought the aim of the UN was to help the people of East Timor but alas it really is about perpetuating the UN itself. It has rigid rules that really bear no semblance of how modern business operates.

 I met some extraordinary people from other armed forces but I also met some bone-lazy people who were only interested in the cash.

 Would I go back – the answer is you bet without a moments hesitation and I would say to anyone offered a position grab it with both hands and do your best. I hope I did and many people said as I was leaving they were sorry to see me go so I hope I did make a small difference.


UN medal presentation ceremony







ReOrganization of University Regiments

The following article appeared in  `The Australian Reservist`  Issue 11 September 2008







Correspondence from Members

Please note:  QURA receives emails/letters from time to time requesting contact details of members.  The current policy is if a fellow member requests contact with another member, the contact details are given without contacting the relevant member. 

Where contact is requested by a non-member, the contact is referred to the individual member to follow up the contact if they so desire.




From:- Glen Oliver

To:- Peter Morton

Subject:-  Queensland Agricultural College Training Unit



Hello Peter,

I am trying to make contact with an organisation that took over from the QACTU.  It may well be QUR (or QUR Association) or Regional University Regiment of Queensland. I have  found your Association with the help of Google.  In 1986 I attended a  graduation parade  of Officer Cadets of QACTU at Lawes.  I gave an address to the cadets about career opportunities in RAAOC.  In appreciation, the OC Maj Peter Ruhl(?) gave me a bottle of Graduation Port to commemorate the occasion.  I still have it in its original condition (perhaps a little more matured after 20 years) and I would like to give it to someone who has an interest in having it.  The names of the  seven graduates are printed on its label but I can't find any of them on your list of Members.  I'm hoping you might be able to point me in the right direction.

Kind regards

Glen Oliver (Maj RL)


Editor's note :- Glen's email was forwarded to Peter Rule and Jenny Cotton




From:- Bob Doneley

To:- Peter Morton

Subject:-  Peter McKay's letter

Dear Peter,

What a joy to read what ‘Natz’ has been doing.  I have many fond memories of Peter, including his water bottle full of Ouzo that he would offer to his unsuspecting mates when he could see they were particularly hot and thirsty (I got caught after a contact on Fraser Island in about 1980-81).  The group of characters – Pete Saunders, Tim Duff, Steve Doherty, Pete Mackay, and a few others – form my strongest memories of my service.  Does anyone know where those blokes are today?

 Pete’s letter has inspired me to record my own thoughts and activities.  So what have I done?  I graduated with a vet degree in 1982 and I was commissioned 6 months later.  I found work in Bundaberg and was posted as a young 2/Lt to 12 Platoon, D Company 9 RQR.  I had 2 great years there, serving with a great bunch of men & women in a very tightly-knit community.  We used to joke that 9 RQR drew a clear distinction between ‘metropolitan’ members and ‘country’ members – I believe that situation still exists?

I married Maree in early ’85 and we spent 8 months in the UK on a working honeymoon.  On our return we ended up in Toowoomba and I found myself as a rifle platoon commander in B Company, 25 RQR. 1988 saw us open our own practice and my promotion to Captain.  I served as  2IC B Company, IO and OC B Company, before been posted in 1993 to RURQ as a Senior Instructor.  In 1994 I  was promoted to Major and posted back to the Battalion as OC Admin Coy.

 Our children were born in 1990 (Liz) and 1992 (Pat) and, with them starting school, I retired from the Army in 1996 with 18 years under my belt.  Since then I have grown a long beard, although I still keep my hair ‘off the ears and the collar’.  Like Natz, I can’t stand unbuttoned pockets, my shirts are always crisply ironed, and I still get up before dawn.  My boots are under the house somewhere, along with my uniforms (which seem to have shrunk mysteriously).  The military life still beckons – I’m patron of the West Qld Chapter of the Vietnam Vets Motorcycle Club, on the 25th Battalion Association Committee, I wrote “Black over Blue: the 25th Battalion AIF at war, 1915-1918” and I’ve nearly finished “Toowoomba to Torokina; the 25th Battalion 1918-1945”.

 I’m still working as a vet, 25 years now.  Strangely enough, I developed a fascination with birds (feathered) and became Queensland’s first specialist in Bird Medicine back in 2003.  My wife, Maree, works in childcare and tolerates old Army stories told and re-told.  Liz, after a brush with lymphoma back in 2005, is now a Uni student in Brisbane (teaching).  Pat is in Grade 11, and spends most of his free time practising his electric guitar or working out.  Neither have any desire to put on a slouch vet (or study vet science!)  We live just outside Toowoomba. 

Like Pete, my memories of the Army come back again and again to that great friendship we had at QUR.  I try not to dwell on the many mistakes I made in my military career or on the hard times we willingly subjected ourselves to, but rather focus on the people I served with, and who remain one of the highlights of my life.

 All the best to everyone,


 Bob Doneley BVSc FACVSc (Avian Medicine)

Registered Specialist in Bird Medicine

West Toowoomba Veterinary Surgery

(The attached photo shows me back in 2006, with my daughter Liz. My hair is longer than usual – I was shaving it all off, and didn’t want to waste money at the barber!)




From:- David Freeman


To:- Peter Morton

Subject:-  QURA AGM and Dinner

Dear Peter,

am up here at Mt. Bundey NT training next rotation for AFG.

Regrettably, there is the 30 th reunion of QUT Law School that night which I had previously committed to.

Please pass on my apologises.


David Freeman


CLO 1 Div


From:- Trevor Luttrell


To:- Peter Morton

Subject:-  Denis has an email Address


Denis has finally given me an email address so that now we can communicate with him by email.  Here's an example of how he's using his new found toy.



Law of Mechanical Repair 
After your hands become coated with grease, your nose will begin to itch and you'll have to pee.

Law of Gravity 
Any tool, when dropped, will roll to the least accessible corner.

Law of Random Numbers 
If you dial a wrong number, you never get a busy signal and someone always answers.

Law of the Alibi 
If you tell the boss you were late for work because you had a flat tire, the very next morning you will have a flat tire.

Variation Law 
If you change lines (or traffic lanes), the one you were in will always move faster than the one you are in now (works every time).

Law of the Bath 
When the body is fully immersed in water, the telephone rings.

Law of Close Encounters 
The probability of meeting someone you know increases dramatically when you are with someone you don't want to be seen with.

Law of the Result 
When you try to prove to someone that a machine won't work, it will.

Law of Biomechanics 
The severity of the itch is inversely proportional to the reach.

Law of the Theatre 
At any event, the people whose seats are furthest from the aisle arrive last.

The Starbucks Law 
As soon as you sit down to a cup of hot coffee, your boss will ask you to do something which will last until the coffee is cold.

Murphy's Law of Lockers 
If there are only two people in a locker room, they will have adjacent lockers.

Law of Physical Surfaces 
The chances of an open-faced jelly sandwich landing face down on a floor covering are directly correlated to the newness and cost of the carpet/rug.

Brown's Law of Physical Appearance 
If the shoe fits, it's ugly.

Oliver's Law of Public Speaking 
A closed mouth gathers no feet.

Wilson's Law of Commercial Marketing Strategy 
As soon as you find a product that you really like, they will stop making it.

Doctors' Law

If you don't feel well, make an appointment to go to the doctor, by the time you get there you'll feel better. Don't make an appointment and you'll stay sick.

 Law of Probability 
The probability of being watched is directly proportional to the stupidity of your act.

 And my favorite:

 Law of Logical Argument 
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.





From:- Grant Purcell


To:- Peter Morton

Subject:-  QURA AGM Dinner Response - Decline


I hope this Email finds you well.

I regret to inform you that I will be unable to attend the AGM and dinner
this month.  I am aware that it has been some time since I have attended a
QUR function, however, personal circumstances have prevented me from

I would appreciate it if you would pass on my best to the CO and members
and would you please send my regards to Brig Jeffreys and Col Williamson.
I do regret seeing them again.

I expect that the night will be grand and all will enjoy the food and
company on the night.  As you are well aware, the comradarie at these
functions are particularly warm and enjoyable.

I wish you all the best and look forward to when circumstances change that
will enable me to return to the Regiment and participate in future

Fond Regards
Grant Purcell



From:- Barry Schmidt


To:- Peter Morton

Subject:-  QURA AGM and Dinner


I would love to come, but the taxi fare from Montréal is a little out of my reach. 

Best wishes with the dinner.

Barry Schmidt




From:- Jack Amies


To:- Trevor Luttrell

Subject:-  QUR

Hi Trevor

 My name is Jack Amies and will be attending University next year at QUT, and was just wondering if you could possibly give me some information for the Queensland University Regiment.

 I recently finished my training at 1RTB, and after completion decided I would prefer to pursue a university degree at this stage of my life, very much intending on returning to the army later in life, possibly as an officer.

 However over the past months I have grown to miss the Army quite a bit and came across the QUR. And was wondering if you could possibly give me some more information as it seems to be difficult to find anything substantial.

My Platoon Commander at Kapooka recommended it, however he even didn’t know much about it either.

 Thank You 


Jack Amies

Editor's note :- Jack is a descendent of Jack Amies who was Brigadier J.L. Amies CBE, ED who had WW2 service. He was Honorary Colonel of the Royal Queensland Regiment 1967-73 and CO of the 9th Battalion before the formation of the RQR.



Personnel Records Enquiry


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Personnel Records Enquiries

CARO is concerned to ensure the privacy of ex-service members' is not impinged upon. CARO adheres to the Commonwealth Privacy Act and the values of the Information Privacy Principles for all records under its control.  In this respect, copies of information held on personnel files may be provided upon receipt of written authorisation from the ex-member.

If the ex-member is deceased, information may be released upon receipt of written authorisation from the next of kin.  In certain other circumstances CARO may be able to issue summarised information. Written requests should include as much of the following details as possible such as

  • Surname and all given names, including any possible names the person may have served under

  • Date and place of birth

  • Date of death

  • Regimental service number(s)

  • State of enlistment

  • Enlistment and discharge dates

  • Rank attained

  • Unit(s) served with and location

  • Date/s and period/s served

  • Details inscribed on any medals or badges, if held.

The enquirer should also provide their

  • Title (Mr/Ms/Mrs/Miss/Dr etc.)

  • Name

  • Postal address

  • Daytime contact telephone number (if available)

  • Relationship to person of whom details are being sought

  • Reason for seeking information.

Postal Address for Personal Records Enquiries:


Central Army Records Office

Postal Address

Soldier Career Management Agency
GPO Box 393D
Melbourne VIC 3001

Telephone Numbers:

03 9282 5393



03 9282 6235


Facsimile Number:

03 9282 5434






Postal Address for applying for the ADM and any other medal.



Directorate of Honours and Awards


Department of Defence

Reply Paid 4455


All other Medals:

Directorate of Honours and Awards


Department of Defence









Due to the fire earlier in the year, the Victory Hotel is NOT available for the QURA Christmas Party.


The night will be the usual `drop in` after work format with the Association providing a bar tab and food platters.  To help defray the costs of the evening, $10.00/head will be collected on the night.  Partners and friends are most welcome to attend.  The Cellar Bar reservation requires a `minimum` spend so please make an effort to support the function. 


RSVP by 1 Dec 08

EMAIL reply to the membership Registrar
(Peter Morton ).

Name: ________________________________________________________________

  • I will be attending the Association’s Annual Christmas Party to be held at the Grosvenor on George Hotel, 320 George St, City on the evening of Friday 12 December 2008 from 1730 hours.

The Christmas Party will be held on the 12th December at the `Grosvenor on George` Hotel situated at 320 George St, City.  The executive have reserved the Cellar Bar (located on the lower level) from 5.30 pm so come along and share a bit of Christmas cheer with fellow association members. 

  •  I regret that I am unable to attend.  Please tender my apology.



Article from RAAF News - Chinese Connection


This article was noticed in the RAAF News and is reproduced here by permission of Author Barry Rollings

Air Force duo gain rare opportunity to study at foreign language school
By Barry Rollings

IT’S A CASE of anticipation and re­flection of all things Chinese for two Air Force members who are about to embark on new career directions involving Chi­nese language skills.

SQNLDR Paul Deighton attended language refresher training at the People’s Liberation Army’s University of Foreign Languages (UFL) at Kunshan near Shanghai from May to July.  He is now well equipped to take up his new role as Assistant Defence Attaché in Beijing next year.

SGT Jennifer Earp left on September 19 to attend the same university for four months.
An excited SGT Earp said she was very fortunate to be selected for “this fantastic opportunity”.
SGT Earp has two general language courses behind her at the Defence Force School of Languages (previously the ADF School of Languages). She completed Indonesian in 2000 and Chinese in 2007.
“When I lodged my expression of interest for a semester of intensive lan­guage and cultural immersion training in Kunshan, it really was a pipe dream and I was absolutely ecstatic to be told I’d been selected,” SGT Earp said.

“Fortunately for me, the timing of my selection blended in nicely with SQNLDR Paul Deighton’s return.  He was very helpful, especially with the preparation of paperwork and budget calculators from this end.
“I am extremely grateful to the Air Force for allowing me to take up this opportunity, and indeed to the PLA for generously offering their sponsorship of these positions for ADF personnel.
“I have huge shoes to fill in the wake of both GPCAPT Paul McLeod and SQNLDR Deighton, who have both contributed significantly to enhancing bilat­eral relations to ensure opportunities such as this can continue. I certainly aspire to carry on the good name of the Air Force, and continue paving the way for future Air Force, and indeed ADF officers and NCOs.
“Aspirations for using my Chinese language skills are definitely aimed at applying for the rotational Defence Administrative Assistant (DAA) in Beijing, which the Air Force is due to take over from Navy in 2011,” she said.

SQNLDR Deighton was the second Australian student to attend.  The first was GPCAPT McLeod, the incumbent Defence Attaché.  SQNLDR Deighton said the experience was best described as a “complete immersion”.   “It is a PLA campus, with all lecturers being PLA officers and lectures solely delivered in Chinese,” SQNLDR Deighton said. “I lived in the PLA accommodation building which housed all students and staff in single rooms with some apart­ments. Messing was in the base dining rooms with very local cuisine.

“Campus is 10km out of town among the paddy fields, so public transport had to be used to go anywhere. Kunshan has few western visitors so they are still a novelty around town.  “This year, 140 military students from 40 different countries attended the uni­versity.”  The only other westerners on cam­pus were a couple from New Zealand. Countries that had military representa­tion included East and South-East Asia, the Middle East, Central Asia and South America.

“Most students spoke little or no English, so for me, Chinese was the main language of communication,” SQNLDR Deighton said. “Overall, it was an amazing experience, which was hugely beneficial in gaining insight into not just the Chinese culture and the PLA, but also militaries of other countries.”


SQNLDR Paul Deighton (centre, back row) pictured with ther members of the class

In keeping with the RAAF theme, pictured below are photos of the new C17 transport that will be supplied to the RAAF by the Department of Defence following budget cuts due to the current global financial crisis




The four builders of the very realistic model.

Colin Straus, the owner, is at the nose of the aircraft.  This 1/9th scale radio-controlled C-17 model was built in the United Kingdom.. It was built as the centerpiece of a 15 program television series produced in the U.K. for the Home and Leisure satellite TV channel.
Built with the aid of three friends, it took one year to build and is powered with 4 Jetcat P-120 turbines with a total thrust of 108 lbs. The model weighs over 250 lbs fueled, and carries 12.5 liters (3.3 US gallons) of 95% kerosene and 5% turbine oil fuel. Other details include 5 Futaba PCM receivers, 16 battery packs (93 cells), 20 Futaba servos, on board air compressor, electro/pneumatic retracts, etc. Wingspan is 20 feet 8 inches, and the top of the fin is 74 inches (6 feet 2 inches) above the ground. Takeoff weight is 264 lbs.
The rear cargo doors open and they drop an r/c jeep on a pallet, as well as 2 free-fall r/c parachutists.
The model also has smoke systems both of the inboard turbines, and uses a 2.4 GHz data link to provide real-time data to a laptop computer on the ground while in flight. This data includes airspeed, turbine RPM, EGT, fuel consumption, etc. Built mainly from balsa and ply, with many glass and carbon fiber moldings to reduce weight. It is covered in fiberglass and epoxy resin. Complete with retractable landing gear and pneumatically operated flaps.
This C-17 Globe Master III is one of the largest jet models in the world today!



War Quotes

Fortune can give no geater advantage that discord among the enemy.
Cornelius Tacitus 56 – 120

Let who desires peace prepare for war.
Flavius Vegetius 4th century

Fear tempts men to fear the worst.
Quintus Curtius Rufus 2nd Century

It often happens, that fortune in war and love turns out more favourable and wonderful than could have been hoped for or expected.
Jean Froissart 1337-1410

How much more cruel the pen may be than the sword.
Robert Burton 1577-1640

Minds are conquered not by arms, but by love and magnanimity.
Benedict de Spinoza 1632-1677

War is the child of pride, and pride the daughter of riches.
Jonathan Swift 1667-1745

Dont forget your great guns, which are the most respectable arguments of the rights of kings.
Frederick the Great 1712-1886

Discipline is simply the art of making the soldiers fear their officers more than their enemy.
Claude Adrien Helvetius 1715-1771

Fire seldom but accurately. Thrust the bayonet with force. The bullet misses, the bayonet doesn’t. The bullet’s an idiot, the bayonet’ a fine chap. Stab once, and throw the Turk off the bayonet. Bayonet another, bayonet a third; a real warrior will bayonet half a dozen more. Keep the bullet in the barrel. If three should run at you, bayonet the first, shoot the second, and lay out the third with your bayonet.
Alexander Vasilevich Surorov 1730-1800

If we lose this war, I’ll start another in my wife’s name.
Moshe Dayan, Yom Kippur War 1973


Things to Think About

Don’t use a big word when a diminutive one will suffice.

A budget is a method for going broke methodically.

A shin is a device for finding furniture in the dark.

Talk is cheap until you hire a lawyer.

Denial isn’t just a river in Egypt.

Despite the high cost of living, it still remains quite popular.

Diplomacy is the art of letting someone have your way.

Why is the word “abbreviated” so long?

Why do dogs get mad at at you if you blow into their face, but when you take them for a ride in the car, they stick their head out of the window.

How do you tell when you are out of invisible ink.

If two things almost collide it’s called a near miss, shouldn’t it be call as near hit?

Do cannibals who are late for dinner get the cold shoulder?

Does the Psychic Society need a phone number?

If you hate yourself in the morning, sleep until noon.

Why is the man who invests all your money called a broker.

Why didn’t Noah swat those two mosquitoes?

Don’t accept the admiration of your dog as conclusive evidence that you are wonderful.

Dyslexics of the world, untie.

Eat a live toad first thing in the morning, and nothing worse can happen to you the rest of the day.

Everywhere is within walking distance if you have the time.

Even if you are on the right track , you will get run over if you just sit there.

Do Lipton employees take coffee breaks.

Do you ever wonder if illiterate people get the full effect of alphabet soup.

A good sport has to lose to prove it.

If the energizer Bunny was arrested would he be charged with battery.


Quotable Quotes

Justice is incidental to law and order.
J Edgar Hoover

A cynic is a person searching for an honest man, with a stolen lamp.
Edgar Shoaff

Cynic n: a blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.
 Ambrose Bierce

I have enough money to last me the rest of my life, unless I buy something.
Jackie Mason

Tradition is what you resort to when you don’ have the time or the money to do it right.
Kurt Adler

Behind every great fortune there is a crime.
Honore’ de Balzac 1799-1850

My problem lies in reconciling my gross habits with my net income.
Errol Flynn

Any fool can make a rule.
Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)

When I feel athletic, I go to a sports bar.
Paul Clisura.

Fishing is a delusion entirely surrounded by liars in old clothes.
Don Marquis

I only know two pieces of music; one is “Clair de Lune’ and the other one isn’t.
Victor Borge

Nothing stinks like a pile of unpublished writing.
Sylvia Plath

Art is the lie that makes us realize the truth.
Pablo Picassso

If I had to do it over again……. I’d have to do it over again.
Tom Wilson

Punctuality is the virtue of the bored.
Evelyn Waugh

Many men die at twenty five and aren’t buried until they are seventy – five.
Benjamin Franklin

Lawyers I suppose, were children once.
Charles Lamb

A lawyer is a man who helps you get what is coming to him.
Laurence Peter

Justice is when the decision is in our favour.
Laurence Peter

(Editors note: if anyone has any books with quotes/ proverbs/ sayings related to war/ conflict etc we would like a photocopy so we can use them as interesting fillers in the newsletter.)



Photos from QURA Archives - Circa 1950


The following photos are some of the photos that QURA has stored in archives.  If you have any photos that you think may be of interest to members, please email or send on a CD to Trevor Luttrell


Guard outside the Main Building, St Lucia

Visible are ; Cpl See, LCpl Pozzi, Pte Whyatt G, Pte Matthews J, Pte Catchpoole W, LCpl Kerr A, LCpl Pozzi J.

In the rear at right of picture LCpl Robertson C, LCpl Ethell G

Carrying out Bren Gun Drill

Pte Jamieson J.L. and Pte Hollongsworth P.C.


“The Charge”

Pte Garrone, LCpl Pozzi, LCpl Kerr, Pte Catchpoole, Pte Vitale, Pte George



QUR Annual Camp 1949

The soldier on the left is LT Tom Parslow - 21C QUR

The soldier on the right is Sgt Jim See, No 1 Platoon A Coy QUR




Photos From a More Modern Era  
IRAQI Photo Booth
Lounge Lizard - US Army Style


Brits New Mounted Cavalry





Back to the Regiment            7 March 2008
Anzac Day                            25 April 2008
Regimental Dinner               10 May 2008 (Cromwell College) - By Invitation from QUR
AGM                                    12 September 2008 - ( 1900Hrs for 1930Hrs)
Christmas Function              12 December 2008 - 5.30 PM (Grosvenor Hotel, 320 George St, City)




 Please check the Members Page to ensure that your membership is current.

If you pay your membership fees on a year by year basis payment is now due for 2008.


Membership status codes are:

  • SMEMB - Special Member (no fees)

  • LMEMB - Life Member (no fees)

  • PUOM - Paid Up Ordinary member (no fees but can transfer to 10 year membership for $50)

  • NEW - New member (no membership fees received as yet)

  • 2005 - 201? membership fees paid to year indicated

  • 199? - 2006 membership fees due for 2007

Annual dues are $10 and a 10 year paid-up membership can be had for $70.  

Cheques should be forwarded to:

The Treasurer

QUR Association

24 Walcott Street,

St Lucia 4067

For those members with internet banking, payments may be made direct to the QURA Bank Account.

Details are BSB 064 129, Account 0090 4500, Account Name QUR Association Inc

Please ensure your name is supplied in the payment details.




The Executive Committee encourages all members to provide a current email address to allow quick and easy communication of important notifications and reminders of upcoming events. 

If you know of any ex-members of QUR who are not in the association, please contact the Membership Registrar (Peter Morton) with any contact details that you have.


For members wishing to provide a new email address, please send an email to Peter Morton  to ensure your address is received and entered onto our contact list.




Have you considered purchasing a copy of the History of QUR magnificently complied and edited by Paul Smith?

It contains 128 pages of stories, photographs and has a coloured badged cover.

          COST :            $15 per copy.

What about a CD containing over 100 images of the history of the Regiment.

COST :            $10 per copy.

Why not treat yourself to a copy or buy copies for your friends.  These are collectors items so don't miss out.

How to purchase copies:

Ring                        Trevor Luttrell      0437 442 964

Email                    trevor.luttrell

Send your payment to:

The Treasurer, QUR Association, 24 Walcott Street, St Lucia Q 4067.

For those members with internet banking, payments may be made direct to the QURA Bank Account.

Details are BSB 064 129, Account 0090 4500, Account Name QUR Association Inc

Please ensure your name is supplied in the payment details.



Association Office Bearers


Position Name Bus Hrs A/Hrs Email
President Trevor Luttrell 3422 8658 0437 442 964 Trevor Luttrell
Vice President Paul Smith 3221 1275 0417 629 885 Paul Smith
Secretary/Treasurer Bruce Davis 3622 1777 3878 2920 Bruce Davis
Membership Secretary Peter Morton 3406 6820 3114 2010 Peter Morton
Committee Members Greg Adams 3264 5544 0418 744 678 Greg Adams
  Col Ahern 3896 9510 3278 1862 Col Ahern
  Chris Backstrom 3863 9238 3359 6262 Chris Backstrom
  Garry Collins   3359 5993 Garry Collins
  Ruth Kassulke 3119 9789 3314 6818 Ruth Kassulke
  David Ross 3227 6974 0402 904 204 David Ross
  Mal Try   3278 3393 Mal Try


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